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I don't know what to tell you about that one beetle page, but whether you go back to it or give it up, you learned a lot.

As for ph neutral glassine, I get mine from Talas

Ah, thanks for the link. I looked for the sheets couldn't find any, only bags. I still would prefer a source in Europe, because I have to pay import taxes on top of a lot of shipment costs when ordering from Talas. But one source is better than none, and I'll think about ordering there should this turn out to be the best or only option.

If you put sheets back in, that means it *has* some function other than protecting the page while the paint dries, right?
I would like to properly understand this, so that I can make a informed decision. Do you know what property it is, that makes the glassine sheets preferable to other paper products?
I am again wondering whethr non maybe non-stick baking paper would be o.k. Is it acid in the paper that you are worried about, or is there another reason why glassine would be preferable?
And won't this new sheets need replacement, too, after a time in any case? When would that be and/or is there a way to fix this once and for all? I am glad that I was able to remove the sheets without destroying the underlying paper. I wouldn't want to produce the same situation again.

And a vocabulary question to the German speaking members: Wikipedia uebersetzt glassine mit Glassin. Aber als ich danach gesucht habe, habe ich nur einen Anbieter fuer "Pergamin/Glassin" gefunden. Ist das das gleiche? Ich war ein wenig verwundert, dass Wikipedia sagt, dass Glassin luftundurchlaessig sei, und Anbieter von Pergaminbeuteln anpriesen, diese seien atmungsaktiv.

I posted some pictures of the encyclopaedia today. If you are interested, have a look here: [url]http://buechertiger.de/blog/?p=1612
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Thanks for all your help!

I replace it for three reasons:

1. If the litho was sticking to the old tissue, it's still got some tackiness to it and may stick again to the opposing page or bleed on to it.

2. The binding is was made with that added thickness of those tissue sheets and it used to having them there. Spine collapse could occur if the thickness of those old sheets was removed (especially if there were a lot of them originally).

3. Customers seem to like the tissue there.

I've also made some custom sketch books for some artists in the area and they love having the glassine in there to protect their work.

I use glassine because I know it's ph neutral and its thickness is very close to what I normally find in the older books. I've also used silicone treated tissue papers when I've needed thicker or thinner (I have two thicknesses that I've picked up over the years).

As for the non-stick baking paper, I'm not familiar with it. It's ph may not be a factor at all but you might want to consider the thinkness of it when it comes to the binding. If it's too thick, it will make the fore edge of the book wider than the spine was made to handle and the spine may split in a few years. If it's two thin, the spine will be forced into more of a curve than it's used to and will tend to collapse and split. (Both of these are problems basically with old leather spines, with which I often work.)

I see, thanks again.

In the meantime I even found a European source for it. I found out that it is called pergamijn in Dutch, and when I searched for a Dutch source, I found that it is available in Germany, too, under the name pergamyn. Here's a link, just in case there's a lurker reading who is interested in the same question: Buch-Kunst-Papier

edit: Does the link work for you? It seems that either the site or my browser is playing tricks on me. For me the link works only sometimes, and I don't know how to fix it. You'll find the glassine by navigating to: Papiere->Karton/Pappe->Pergamyn (on page 4)

The link worked perfectly for me (3 times). I'm glad you were able to find it. Hopefully it will help others too.